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from_the_corner ([personal profile] from_the_corner) wrote2008-12-01 09:34 pm
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English language help - pretty please

Or I should rather say - cultural reference. Because I too often lack those, for obvious reasons =)

One of my prompts for [livejournal.com profile] art_bingo is JACK FROST.

First thing that I though of, was the movie. But the guy there was simply a snowman, right? I thought it would be a litle too easy, so I read "jack frost" Wiki page and then googled it, for a good measure. And ended up knowing even less than at the beginning.

So, when you say "Jack Frost" - what you actually mean?

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[personal profile] tarlanx 2008-12-01 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Well... I always pictured him as a fairy type sprite with icicles hanging from him... a little bit like the one in the Santa Clause: The Escape Clause (3rd?) movie :-)

http://www.christmas-entertainers.co.uk/Images/Christmas/jack-frost-stilts-web.jpg
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[personal profile] tarlanx 2008-12-01 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You know - I have this image of Jack Frost's face replaced with Rodney's now :-)
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[identity profile] dustandroses.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think this reference in The Encyclopedia Mythica is probably the closest to what I've always considered him: "Jack Frost is a figure from folklore, an elfish creature who personifies crisp, cold weather. He is said to leave those beautiful patterns on autumn leaves and windows on frosty mornings."

I saw the reference to him on Wiki that said he was the same thing as "Father Winter" - but I always saw him as more of a Fall figure than a Winter one.

I don't know if this will help at all, but I thought it was cool, so I thought I'd share it - there's a plant called Jack Frost: Brunnera macrophylla (http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plantfinder/Plant.asp?code=M800). If you click on the pic to get the close up, you can really see the traceries of the green veins that show through the white of the leaves. It really does look like frost on the leaves. Like I said, it may not help at all, but as an artist, I thought you might appreciate it.

I hope this helps some...I think it sounds like a really cool prompt, you could have all sorts of fun with it.
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[identity profile] liresius.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Jack Frost is essentially winter personified (elf, fairy, man figure), but culturally we do tend to associate him with late autumn because that's when we get the first frosts. From my childhood I seem to remember he was referred to at these times more than at the dead of winter.

On waking up on the first frosty morning people are likely to say, "Ooh, Jack Frost is on the way." or "Jack Frost has visited."

So for me, the way we speak (and when we speak) about JF - we use him to acknowledge that autumn is changing over to winter / that winter is on the way.
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[identity profile] from-the-corner.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't see any of the Santa Clause movies... But this sure looks interesting =) And thanks for explanation.
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[identity profile] from-the-corner.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you do it right now? Because it may be my too vivid imagination, but I could swear I saw it somewhere =)
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[identity profile] from-the-corner.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds interesting. Right now I'm leaning towards the idea of using the frost on window. Trying to fit it into my SGA/McShep theme may be tricky, though =)
And thanks for your help. I've learned something new today and that's good :)
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[identity profile] from-the-corner.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, that does help =) I guess it will make sens, if I use a frosted window, then. Because I have this idea, and - like most of them - it doesn't want to go away =)
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[personal profile] tarlanx 2008-12-03 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
No...but I'm hoping you will !!!!
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[identity profile] from-the-corner.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Wait... so didn't do it at all? I thought you did and didn't want to copy you...=)
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[personal profile] tarlanx 2008-12-04 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's not one of my prompts - unfortunately - but fortunately, it is one of yours! :)
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[identity profile] from-the-corner.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
I thought you made it just for fun.
But if you didn't, then I'm so doing it! I just need a good cap of Rodney's face =)
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[identity profile] liresius.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, a frosted window would work well!